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I went to a WW'ers meeting.

I asked my leader and two receptionists who have known me for 5 years, "Do I look 8 lbs fatter?!?!?!?" They all looked at me like I am insane... since I pretty much am.

Everybody says I look the same. I didn't ask dh, "Do I look fat" for 4 years. I now ask him 5 times a day. I went to big band practice (w/ 14 guys) last night and one of the guys greeted me, "Hey Denise, How ya do'in?" and it took ALL of my self control not to say, "How am I doing? I've gained 8 pounds is how I'm doing!!! Honestly, do I look 8 pounds fatter to you?!?!?!" However, I restrained myself.

My leader asked if I've gone thru menopause. Yup. No TOM since April 2008.

According to her (and she has been a leader for 27 years), the first couple of years of menopause, you retain fluid like a giant, enormous sponge for the first 2-4 years... and my body will not let go of any fluid until about 2012 or so. I guess then I will spend a year pee-ing every 4 mins.

She said that it isn't fat. And I haven't gained 6-7 lbs of muscle. Just water. Like a 3 year PMS. Fortunately, for my family I'm no worse cranky than I've ever been, and I'm actually pretty happy these days.

But I do feel compelled to lose 2 pounds... for the MOST STUPID reason... to prove that I can and I'm not insane. Smiler Which probably PROVES that I AM insane. (I have been PERFECT the past 2 weeks and have ALWAYS lost when I buckle down and with OCD food logging. BUT NO... not THIS month... I go OCD for 2 weeks and gain 1.5 lbs!).

I got dh to take photos of me at this weight. The only photos of my menopausal sponge of a stomach to ever be posted.
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http://www.freewebs.com/goingskiing/photos.htm

I feel like it is insane to lose 2 lbs, just to prove I can. But I also don't want to keep gaining.

On the other hand, I am losing inches... and I love this 30 Day Shred DVD... although I can NOT believe that I am gaining muscle exponentially. But when I use my cheapo body fat testing methods... I'm losing fat.

According to my cheapo $6 Accumeasure Calipers, I was at 21% fat on June 9th. I'm now at 19%.

Brie or Iz or one of you trainer types: Is this physically possible:

A pound of fat has 3500 calories.
A pound of muscle/protein has about half that or 1800ish.

Is it physically possible for my body to take the calories from one of my pounds of fat... and use those calories it to make 2 pounds of muscle. And I lose a pound of fat... but the scale goes up 1 pound?

I am totally LOLOLOL that this is happening to me. Smiler


Denise
 
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There are copies of her book on Amazon for $3-4. Maybe I'll pick it up.

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I checked my copy from the library. It says almost exactly the same stuff as the previous book we've worked with. However, she structures the book differently- there are stages to master with the use of ARC's and behavior modification. Same stuff, different package. Still, I find reading her super helpful in terms of keeping me on track mentally, so I am happy to read the same thing in a different format.
 
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Originally posted by Sandy:
I just picked up the new Beck book- Diet for Life. Although I have only skimmed it this afternoon, she now says it's important to weigh in daily for these reasons:
*You need to use the scale number to give you informaiton
*You need the incentive to stick to plan- at times
*IT's the only way to deal with feelings of shame around the scale number- to just deal with it.
*I can't remember the last reason
I have family in AA, and they have told me that there have been times when their "Sobriety Date" is the only thing that stops them from drinking and not wanting to start over and give up that sobriety date.

I also know that there have been many times when I've wanted a donut and being a pound or two over range has made me think, "No not today...you want to get back in range."

One of my problems, is I no longer feel like I KNOW deep down WHAT exactly is a realistic range. For years... I knew when I was in range and when I was out of it. And I just don't really know any more.

There are copies of her book on Amazon for $3-4. Maybe I'll pick it up.

* * * * * * * * * *

After I got the DEX scan thing... I fooled around with the tape measure and how tight and how loose and got a body fat number that is VERY, VERY close to 30% using the same body fat test used by the military.

With the inches, I've lost... according to this test... I've gained 2.71 pounds of lean. And lost 1.51 lbs of fat. In three weeks. Seems like a LOT of muscle to gain in 3 weeks.

I continue to be baffled. Smiler


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Originally posted by GoingSkiing:
Or I used to walk over to the Y and do the machines... but now I do it at home. It is only a 7 min walk to the Y... but I'm not doing it 2-3 times a week. So that is 30-45 mins less walking I'm doing a week.


I was just thinking...
about 30-40 minutes less per week of walking...

That burns about 200 calories less per week than usual (I am guesetimating)

In a month you are burning 800 fewer calories. In 4 months you are at nearly a pound.

Unless my quick numbers are off?....
That seems about right to me.

I pretty much KNOW how I gained it. To gain like 2-3 lbs over 3 months time is pretty "normal" for me... exactly because it IS so easy to be just a little less active and/or eat a little too much.

The part that is confusing/confounding me is that in the past, getting on track has ALWAYS resulted in a loss.

This is the first time... pretty much... EVER that I have been on track and logging food... and am on 15 days now, of "perfect" journal keeping... and NO loss. Weigh more now than when I started.

I also noticed a similar "thing" in March, but didn't pay as much attention as I was only up over range 1-2 pounds, and just didn't put that much thought into it. Just thought, "That's sort of strange...".

I'm just confronting a lot of "firsts".

First time I've gained pounds... yet don't seem to be getting fatter.
Pretty much the first year of maintaining since menopause.
First time I've gone into losing mode... and haven't seen a lost.
First time, I've THOUGHT that I was 22ish% fat, and then found out I wasn't.

It is like all the laws of physics or thermodynamics have gone haywire. Smiler

I may post tomorrow... I came home and Jamie and Nelson were having a tea party on the ceiling. I was a little surprised... but hey... what do I know? I was VERY happy to ONLY have tea with them and ignored all the sandwiches and desserts. Smiler


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Or I used to walk over to the Y and do the machines... but now I do it at home. It is only a 7 min walk to the Y... but I'm not doing it 2-3 times a week. So that is 30-45 mins less walking I'm doing a week.


I was just thinking...
about 30-40 minutes less per week of walking...

That burns about 200 calories less per week than usual (I am guesetimating)

In a month you are burning 800 fewer calories. In 4 months you are at nearly a pound.

Unless my quick numbers are off?....
 
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And I usually eat a hot dog there that is probably about 1000 calories and don't think much about it. Since I'd normally eat 600-700 calories for dinner and this is a LONG working day. THIS YEAR... good news! I don't have to load/unload trucks. But still ate the hot dog. Smiler

Or I used to walk over to the Y and do the machines... but now I do it at home. It is only a 7 min walk to the Y... but I'm not doing it 2-3 times a week. So that is 30-45 mins less walking I'm doing a week.


I think you are on to something. It's the little things that add up over time. It could be a combination of sloppiness and/or lifestyle changes.

I can't find the part in this thread about considering weighing less or not weighing, but I wanted to say that I managed to gain 12-15 pounds by not weighing.
I just picked up the new Beck book- Diet for Life. Although I have only skimmed it this afternoon, she now says it's important to weigh in daily for these reasons:
*You need to use the scale number to give you informaiton
*You need the incentive to stick to plan- at times
*IT's the only way to deal with feelings of shame around the scale number- to just deal with it.
*I can't remember the last reason

Anyway--- she's always been an advocate of weighing in, but talks more about the importance of it in the new book.
 
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Originally posted by p7eggyc:
I know the holy grail says weigh everyday but do you want to consider going to weekly?
Weighing weekly... the numbers are equally "depressing".

My WW'er WI day is Friday and typically the day of the week I weigh the least.

June 5 126.5
June 12 127.5
June 19 127.5
June 26 129

I might actually see a number that is going down next Friday... we'll see.

If I count really accurately, I can say with some assurance:

a) I really am eating way less.
OR...
b) I had just gotten sloppy

But I don't want to call and make all kinds of dr. appointments if I've just gotten sloppier.

I also keep thinking of little life changes where a person can burn fewer calories...

Like we played out at Santana Row a couple weeks ago. Usually, this involves about an hour of loading and unloading and loading and unloading heavy crap onto/off off a couple of trucks (including a flight of stairs).

And I usually eat a hot dog there that is probably about 1000 calories and don't think much about it. Since I'd normally eat 600-700 calories for dinner and this is a LONG working day. THIS YEAR... good news! I don't have to load/unload trucks. But still ate the hot dog. Smiler

Or I used to walk over to the Y and do the machines... but now I do it at home. It is only a 7 min walk to the Y... but I'm not doing it 2-3 times a week. So that is 30-45 mins less walking I'm doing a week.

And it is soooooo easy to over eat in America... I don't feel like I'm doing anything differently... but I want to count up and see if things HAVE changed from last year.

OR if I can say... OK! No problem!!! False alarm!!!


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The thing that is actually bothering me the MOST right now is that I seem to be maintaining on MUCH, MUCH fewer calories than 10 months ago.

I believe that I'm eating about 25% fewer calories and maintaining.

The only way to figure out if this is really true or not... is to count the calories.

And actually, it doesn't really make me insane. (Edit: Not that counting calories or NOT counting them is proof of sanity OR insanity...Smiler Just is what it is. Counting calories, is all.) I've weighed my oatmeal and milk and half and half in my coffee every single day since I've owned a food scale... which is over 5 years now.

Doesn't really bother to put my coffee cup on the food scale and pour out 10 g. of full fat half and half. Not really all that different from the counter and pouring out some half and half.

But MOSTLY TODAY, I'm wondering a) WHY I seem to be able to eat so much fewer calories and b) if my perceptions are indeed accurate... because THINKING that you are eating fewer calories and actually doing so, aren't always the same thing.Smiler

The scale IS just one tool... and it is going up... and I want to know why. Like if my metabolism or thyroid has gone to crap... I want to get it fixed.


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Denise,
I'm curious because it seems out of character for you. You seem to have always had a pretty balanced 'it's one of a number of tools I use' attitude about the scale number. You've listed quite a long list of indicators (clothing fit, fat blob size Smiler, etc) that seem to say that this weight is not unhealthy for you in any way besides mentally. What if one of your other indicators was 'off' instead of the scale number? If the pants you usually wear didn't fit quite right but the number still read the same way? It seems like you've given the scale number a sudden higher 'value' then you've ever given it before. I am sure I was one of the non-scale people you were thinking of. Smiler I obviously don't put that much value into the number for myself but I do believe it is a tool in the tool box. I'm afraid of using power saws too. Smiler

Playing devil's advocate:
You've been willing and successful changing things when they stopped working for you. I know the holy grail says weigh everyday but do you want to consider going to weekly? Is this something that you need to learn to accept vs. explain w/OCD tracking and a zillion tests? Would it be better to learn to accept that you have a healthy lifestyle and focus on something else?

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Another thought that I just had is when is the last time you had your thyroid checked?
I just looked it up.

March, 2008
TSH was 3.11
And they call the standard range .34 - 4.82 (which I think might be an old high number?)

But I actually feel VERY good. The only symptom I’m having of being hypo thyroid is cold in restaurants and the yogurt section of the supermarket… but that has been true since the 80’s. And especially now that EVERYTHING is air conditioned… being cold in the summer in air conditioned public places is just normal if a person is a healthy weight.

I'm about the same scatter brained as I've always been.

About the same dry skin as normal.

Hair is about the same.

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Originally posted by Sandy:
I wonder---
Are you feeling like adjusting to your new weight is an option
I WAS adjusting to the new scale number… until the high tech fat test.

I’ve actually been thinking of a number of people on the board. Smiler If I didn’t own a scale, I wouldn’t even know I was up. Clothes that I bought at 120 are fitting just fine.

I don’t know about you guys… but I have certain blobs of blubbery areas that I can grab and TELL if I’m gaining weight. Like if I gain 2 lbs of fat… I can literally feel it on my stomach. Like it is normally, a quarter of a “handful” and when I’ve gained, it will go up to half a handful. And at my highest weight… it was several handfuls. And all of my bodily blobs are registering “thin” right now.

Or I can look down and compare my body to my feet… and that “test” is saying “thin” right now.

So, I’m not particularly unhappy. I'm not feeling "fat" or motivated to lose weight because of "fat".

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or are you wanting to lose some/all of it
Well, right now, I’d like to lose 2-3 lbs, just to prove that I CAN and that the earth is still spinning on it’s axis and my world isn’t off kilter and all wobbly.

I’d also like to stop gaining.

I have a friend on the WW’ers board who lost about 100 lbs and she is a size ONE and has gained 15 lbs in the past year. She started some SERIOUS bike riding in the past year. Like she recently rode 100 miles around Tahoe and has done some races… and she has gained 15 lbs and is STILL a size 1. And really, all she wants to know is, “When will it stop??? Am I going to gain back 100 lbs and still be a size 1?” She also said that the higher scale number makes her FEEL fatter and like she is developing “flab” … but then she’ll say, “But how would I know? I’ve lost perspective”.

She'll ask, "When will I stop gaining?" and the answer seems to be, "I don't know..."

But at this point, I’d like to lose two pounds… just because I’ve always been able to. Which, since I’ve also lost perspective, I don’t even know if that is a dumb reason or what.

I don’t think that I want to lose all of it. I’m just not THAT fond of being in losing mode. I really don’t want to spend 8-16 weeks in losing mode (assuming that I actually start losing…!) just to be able to say, “I weigh 121.5”. THAT would be my ONLY motivation to lose 7-8 lbs. I really don’t think that I NEED to lose 7-8 lbs. I’m not even convinced that I NEED to lose 2.

I’m just freaked to be GAINING… or to see the scale number going up… even if I don’t feel that I’m getting fatter.

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Originally posted by BrenauMom:
I don't know how old you are but your metabolism could be slowing down and what used to be your maintainence levels are now resulting in some gaining.
I'm 51.

My plan is to track like a freaking maniac for the next month (which I already have 2 weeks of OCD tracking… so that will be 6 full weeks of "perfect" tracking) and see what happens.

Less than a year ago, like last August/September… I was maintaining on 2300-2400ish calories a day. And when I use any “How many calories should I be eating?” calculator… based on my age/weight/height/gender/activity level… that seems average.

http://www.bcm.edu/cnrc/caloriesneed.htm

Since the way the calculators work is taking averages from the general population.

And I’ve always been able to track my food and count up 2300-2400 calories and maintain. It might require crazy things like weighing grapes… but I don’t throw a 400 calorie bunch of grapes on a plate and say, “Oh… that is about a cup. It’s probably about 100 calories”.

“Normal” would be to have my metabolism drop 75 or 100 calories a DECADE. And if mine has dropped like 500-1000 calories in 9-10 months… that is a problem.

So, at the end of 6 weeks of OCD tracking… if I somehow feel like things aren’t “right”…

I want a thyroid test work up thing.

The RD at my medical office has one of those things you blow in and it tests you RMR (resting metabolism rate). (Dr. Peeke did it to the doctor/resident on KD’s show one time.) Unfortunately, my doctor has to order it. I called and talked to her about 3 years ago (back when every thing was “normal” and I was tormenting Brie to have hers tested…Smiler) and I can’t just go in for a test (and I haven't asked my doctor for the test in the past, because my reason for wanting one was always, "Oh, I'm just curious about it!"). I need a referral. But if I call my doctor and melt down… he’ll probably give me a referral to the RD.

I want my cholesterol rechecked.

Oh… and I want another of those high tech body scans, since the tech said that it is the MOST reproducible body fat test… and I want to see if I’m gaining fat or muscle. Although, if I’m gaining fat exponentially… I may really freak out. But if I’m also losing bone and muscle exponentially… THAT will be bad.

But that is the plan. More over the top, OCD tracking (AND if I have an appt with an RD… I shall have VERY accurate logs of what I’ve been eating…) and see what happens. Smiler

PS... I also have logs from last year, where I lost just FINE on about 1900-2000 calories a day. So, I want "proof" that things are different vs. "I think that I'm doing every thing about the same and not losing".

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I don't know how old you are but your metabolism could be slowing down and what used to be your maintainence levels are now resulting in some gaining.

My resting metabolic rate is just 1669 and I am having a very slow go at losing if I eat at a 1500 calorie level. And that is with walking and doing weights at the Y.

However, I am still seeing a reduction in the size of my clothes.


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To go off on a minor tangent here:

Denise, I'm interested in what you think of the 30 Day Shred workout. I like it, but I didn't feel like it was an over-the-top challenge. In fact, I'm more challenged from a coordination standpoint than strength or cardio. Can't do those double jump ropes for anything! How challenging do you think it is?
 
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I’ve slowly been gaining since last November… and REALLY it isn’t THAT hard to gain a pound a month. Eat 50 calories more (which is 10 calories more every meal and snack… a person wouldn’t even notice it really) and watch just a little more TV… and you are gaining a pound a month.)


I think you summed up the typical age related weight gain in the US.

It happens so EASILY! Just an extra couple bites or tastes per day along with more rest time.

I wonder---
Are you feeling like adjusting to your new weight is an option or are you wanting to lose some/all of it?
 
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Another thought that I just had is when is the last time you had your thyroid checked? If you do go in for a cholesterol test, you may also ask them to test your thyroid.

For a long time my mom was eating well and exercising and her doctor just kept telling her to lose weight. That doctor retired and the new doctor that took over his practice is a neighbor of my parents. He finally said "I see you walking every day, so there may be something more going on here." Sure enough, they tested her thyroid and she has a hypothyroid.

If you think you haven't been on plan and the explains the gain, then it is probably that, but if you really have been making a concerted effort and you are still not losing or gaining, you may want to check into the thyroid.

Dawn


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To tell the truth, I am stumped as to why the gain. I am just throwing out ideas...
I'm actually not stumped by a LOT or even most of the gain. Smiler

I’ve slowly been gaining since last November… and REALLY it isn’t THAT hard to gain a pound a month. Eat 50 calories more (which is 10 calories more every meal and snack… a person wouldn’t even notice it really) and watch just a little more TV… and you are gaining a pound a month.

But the past few months I’ve been going by body fat percentages and not paying AS MUCH attention to the scale. I’m still weighing every day… but just not freaking out over being 1 or 2 or 4 lbs over my “red line”.

And it is pretty usual for me to gain a couple of pounds every 3 months or so and then just go into losing mode and take them off. And I’ve gone into losing mode a couple of times since January, but it isn’t coming off like it used to… and plus I THOUGHT I had really good body fat percentages… so I figured my body was happy keeping it. So I didn't worry too much (HA! Famous last words!)

So April… I go thru my usual April exercise slump… I had 5 concerts in 15 days or something and was REALLY busy… and EVERY YEAR, I go thru a little post, “Whaaaa! The ski season is over!” slump. Basically, I spent every three days moving 50-300 chairs and 300-500 music stands and percussion equipment. And I kind of accept it as “normal” and don't exercise for about 3 weeks.

So May comes around, and I have my usual cyclical, “Oh Krap! I haven't exercised in 3 weeks. I need to get my butt in gear and exercise again!”. And I heard good things about this “30 Day Shred” DVD and start doing this… and I start gaining weight exponentially. I was about 125ish in May… and I start shooting up to 130’s… and numbers I haven’t seen since summer 2004, before hitting WW’ers “Goal”.

But, heck I’m losing inches and I got better muscle definition than ever… and I know that when you change up exercise, you often retain water (but for 45 days already?). And I THINK that my body fat percentage is getting even better! So, I'm actually pretty happy!

Also BTW, I’ve also been eating REALLY well, because the economy is hitting us a little… so we hardly go out at all any more. And I’ve got this little burst of enthusiasm and motivating from trying a new exercise program. Also, Jamie watched “Super Size Me” 3 times in a row… and HE is on a health kick. And having a good influence on ALL of us. Nelson’s lost weight since Jamie’s heath food kick. :~)

So anyway THEN, I go for the high tech body fat thing… since I’ve been thinking a lot about body fat percentages the past few months. And find that I’m 1/3 fat. Which, rational or not, did freak me out.

The American Council of Exercise (Who ever THEY are… Roll Eyes ) says that 32% fat is “obese”. So, I’m just a little freaked to be 1 percentage point away from “obese”. OK… I’m guessing that if one of those exercise council members came after me with calipers… they wouldn’t find me 31% fat. Personal trainer at the Y measured me with BIA and found me 23% fat and he thought that pretty accurate… But rational or not, the 31% fat DID freak me out. (Well, ACTUALLY, the tech DID point out that I’m 29.7 fat without my brain…)

So I sit on that info for a week or so (and went from 126.5 to 127.5), and decide, oh the heck with it… I’ll lose 2-3 pounds. What the heck! I’ll just do it!

So I get on track, and do what I’ve done 3 times a year for the past 5 years. I’ve always just been on track for 3 weeks, cut back a little… like to 2000 calories and lost like 2-3 pounds.

And this time, 2 weeks in, eating an average of 1700something calories a day… I’m UP another 1.5 lbs. Like consistently, not a water weight blip. I’m weighing my fruits and vegs and every thing else. So, I’m a little weirded out. Smiler

Of course, in the past… when I’ve jumped on being up… I’m usually starting with like 3 lbs of water weight and 2 lbs of fat… like after the holidays or a vacation. I keep thinking of Nbox’s siggy about “old fat” being harder to lose.Smiler I let it hang around for 6-8 months… and it is resisting going away.

So, now… just need to be on track for 4 or 6 weeks and see what happens. Smiler

Oh... and one thing that is hard... 66-75% of the population is over weight. It is REALLY hard to find anybody who has gone thru menopause and hasn't gained weight. But McDougall will say that isn't "normal". It is really, really hard to get feedback about what should be a "normal" menopause and weight experience. Smiler Really the only people who don't gain are in Hollywood... and how "normal" are they? And even people like Meryl Streep or Helen Mirren probably gain. Why stay at a BMI of 18 or 19 if you are now going to play middle aged women in movies?

So anyway... thanks to anybody still reading my long story. Smiler

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OTOH, I have become VERY good at losing inches and am holding on to that thought

I’m thinking at the end of the month… see where I am… and I can always call my dr. and say, I’m gaining weight. I’m sort of confused by it… but can you run a cholesterol test?


IF you are losing inches, I can't imagine that you have gained fat. Maybe you are putting on some significant muscle.

If it's muscle, I doubt that your chol. will be adversely effected. But I am not sure...

Another thought---
Have you been sloppy with food over the past few months? My thought is that if you've not been careful until the past couple weeks, the weight might just be settling in on you.

To tell the truth, I am stumped as to why the gain. I am just throwing out ideas...
 
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Thanks!

Well, after dinner last night (ended up with a Boca and 2 pickles), I THOUGHT that I would weigh 132 or 133... and I was only 129.5 So THAT is encouraging.

This has sort of rocked my belief in my ability to “jump on two pounds”. Up two pounds? Get on it and take it off. Maybe it just takes 3 weeks or 4 weeks to lose 2 lbs now… I don’t know.

Has also sort of jarred my belief in “calories in and calories out”. Burn 3500 calories and lose a pound of fat. In THEORY! Lol.

OTOH, I have become VERY good at losing inches and am holding on to that thought.

But I’ve also been half worried because in the past, gaining weight has always meant a worse cholesterol number.

I’m thinking at the end of the month… see where I am… and I can always call my dr. and say, I’m gaining weight. I’m sort of confused by it… but can you run a cholesterol test? And I’m sure that he would go for it.

I just don't want to be in denial and think, "Oh! It just water weight! NO PROBLEM!"

And I can also ask him to run a RMR test. Since IF I am gaining on 1700-1800 calories a day… that means that I need to eat about 1000 to maintain and that is just nuts! And I’m guessing that if I’ve gone from maintaining on 2400ish to 1000ish… I’d be feeling pretty crappy, like if my thyroid went really bad. And I don’t. I feel really good.


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You look FANTASITIC Denise! Don't let this combined with the new body fat number freak you out. Keep doing what you are doing.



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Denise,
I think you look great. I would just stick with the exercise and clean eating and make sure you don't gain any more, but don't in any way think you look bad.

Dawn


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Originally posted by Sandy:


First, after I got to 126 and hung out there for a while, I inched back to close to 140. No one really noticed the gain until I hit the 10 pound mark. After the 10 pounds I started looking like I was "not thin any more."


I gained all fat- no muscle. I was not doing shred DVD's. I was eating extra servings of cheese here and there along with overflowing 1 cup pasta portions. I was in fat gaining mode.

Sounds like you may have gained some fat, but you are also building muscle. You look great- very well defined and muscular. The muscle makes you look lean and healthy.

I agree that sticking to plan 110% for 8-12 weeks might give you some insight as to what the heck is going on.

BTW, I have spend the last two weeks mostly off plan and I am resting around 130. I'm not thrilled about the foods I have been eating- no burgers and fries, but just extras here and there. I have some great excuses- dd had 4 impacted teeth out, major extended family drama, a huge party here just a week ago and more.

Still, I have been super sloppy and need to get back on track. I'd be happy to hang with you here at 110% on plan. I know we're both very capable of it- many others too!
 
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